Atlantis

topic posted Thu, June 10, 2004 - 1:55 PM by  Blaine
Anyone heard of the fellow who claims he's found Atlantis?
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Blaine
Portland
  • Re: Atlantis

    Tue, October 5, 2004 - 2:53 PM
    If you mean some sunken island in the middle of the atlantic, then no, because that island will never be found because it doesnt exist. However, there is, in my view, a theory that does explain where it is! To make along story short, it was an ancient global maritime civilization based on antartica, before the last earth crust displacement about 12000 years ago. The basic idea is that every so often the poles shift, thrusting a new area into the polar regions, and the ice caps to where they will melt and cause sea levels to rise dramatically. Think about where most modern cities are located; on the coastal areas. I f the sea was to suddenly rise a hundred feet, it would take out the majority of civilization as we know it.( except for the super wealthy secret society members who had advance knowlege that were floating around in space waiting for the disaster to subside in a space station that the 'tax payers' funded and built) anyway, check out colin wilson, rand flem-ath, and graham hancock!
    • Re: Atlantis

      Thu, October 7, 2004 - 5:31 PM
      What he says is true. It's all in the Illuminatus! Trilogy, a work sadly shelved in the science fiction section, but chillingly right on nonetheless. (And nothing against science fiction, kickass wolfling renegade master of all genres of literature.)
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        Wed, February 2, 2005 - 5:07 PM
        Atlantis lies in the Mediterranean. Misinterpretations of the legends leads everyone to look for a super continent beyond the pillars of hercules today known as the straights of gibralter. In ancient times two islands in the eastern mediterranean were also known as the pillars of hercules. Also it was said to be larger than Asia and Africa. If one letter in this word of ancient discriptive text was changed it would read " lies BETWEEN Asia and Africa" But because the legend is so big many cannot accept the fact that a reletivly small island can be the fabled atlantis. Direct translations from one language to another are not always accurate or true to the original so alot is filled in with interpretations which vary from person to person. I believe everyon tries to hard to see what they want and this causes many discrpencies.
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          Thu, February 3, 2005 - 11:08 PM
          Im holding to the island of thera until proven differant, otherwise known as santorini. it just fit for me too well. the archetecture, similier to minoans AND troy. I think the link if the ancient sea peoples; the phonetians. when we can translate their lang. better and when we understand linier B script ( the lang. found in crete) more proof will be seen. Remeber; they didnt call them themselves minoans, the discoverer of the ruins did.
          My two cents.
    • Re: Atlantis

      Thu, February 24, 2005 - 2:43 PM
      According to geologists' the Magnetic Poles switch every 10,000 to 15,000 years. Which kind of fits for when Atlantis was around. Someone pointed out that after 10,000 yrs our cities & artifacts would also dissappear.
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      Re: Atlantis

      Sat, March 5, 2005 - 3:40 PM
      Greeting to the tribe!
      Do I really need to give my two cent opinion as to where Atlantis is located?!
      heh heh heh
      • Re: Atlantis

        Sun, March 6, 2005 - 6:00 AM
        not where, but when! It's like looking for the lost island of earth! There are remnants of 'atlantis' all over the place... Look at the ruins of Tiahuanaco and tell me that the Incas built them 500 years ago..
        • Re: Atlantis

          Wed, April 20, 2005 - 9:40 AM
          I've also read the book called "When the Sky Fell". It is excellent reading and I am convinced of the Antarctica theory. I believe that it is just too chilling for most people these days to think that our powerful civilization could be layed to waste in one swift toss of the earths crust as it was some 12000 years ago. I look at it as putting the earth and all life upon it through a washing machines spin cycle, and could possibly be seen as a good thing from a cosmic level.
          In the bible God promised there would not be another great flood, but one of the keys to this occuring, is the build up of ice in either pole which serves to swing the entire crust upon the liquid magma. As it stands we are melting the earth's polar ice caps and possibly avoiding another earth crust displacement and fulfilling the prophecy. Does this make us God-like, or is this the type of attitude that leads to mass extinctions?
  • Re: Atlantis

    Thu, June 16, 2005 - 9:37 PM
    Looking for Atlantis means looking for the civilization which mapped Antarctica before it was covered with ice more than 10,000 years ago. Arguing about whether it was in the Indian ocean, South Pacific, mid Atlantic, or Mediterranean is missing the point - it was in all those places. Clues are everywhere, the real question we need to ask is what happened to them?

    The answer is that many men have claimed to have found Atlantis all over the world.
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    Re: Atlantis

    Wed, June 29, 2005 - 1:01 PM
    So just so we understand that there is no sunken land in the Atlantic Ocean, as was stated prior in this discussion. Let's check the evidence of that, shall we?

    Evidence for Existence of Atlantis

    Note:
    The following 4 segments contain excerpts from the full length articles listed below.

    "This is probably the greatest discovery in World history", was stated by Maxine Asher, the co-director of a scientific expedition that found Atlantis at the bottom of the ocean, reported United Press International and major newspapers in the United States during the summer of 1973. UPI continued that "Maxine Asher said that scuba divers found data to prove the existence of the super-civilization which legend says sank beneath the sea thousands of years ago". "The divers had found evidence of roads and large columns, some with concentric spiral motifs, in the exact place described by the Greek philosopher Plato".

    "The group of some 70 scientists, teachers and adventurers was endorsed by Pepperdine University in Los Angeles, California."

    The document "History of the Golden Ages" reveals over 30 ruins including pyramids, domes, paved roads, rectangular buildings, columns, canals and artifacts that have been found on the ocean bottoms from the Bahamas to the nearby coasts of Europe and Africa, referencing the vast size of the lost continent.

    Dozens of historians and famous writers wrote about the Atlantis they believed existed, how the Myans and Aztecs had told their conquerors that they came from Atlantis and Mu, about ancient tablets photographed in Peru showing those two lost continents, Atlantis and Lemuria, and ancient maps clearly showing Atlantis.

    Just some of the ruins so far found include:

    * A pyramid explored by Dr Ray Brown on the sea floor off the Bahamas in 1970. Brown was accompanied by 4 divers who also found roads, domes, rectangular buildings, unidentified metallic instruments, and a statue holding a "mysterious" crystal containing miniature pyramids. The metal devices and crystals were taken to Florida for analysis at a university there. What was discovered was that the crystal amplified energy that passed through it.

    * Ruins of roads and buildings found off Binini Island in the 1960's by the photographed and published expeditions of Dr Mansan Valentine. Similar ruins were also photographed off Cay Sal in the Bahamas. Similar underwater ruins were found off Morocco and photographed 50 to 60 feet underwater.

    * A huge 11 room pyramid found 10,000 feet under water in the mid Atlantic Ocean with a huge crystal top, as reported by Tony Benlk.

    * A 1977 report of a huge pyramid found off Cay Sal in the Bahamas, photographed by Ari Marshall's expedition, about 150 feet underwater. The pyramid was about 650 feet high. Mysteriously the surrounding water was lit by sparkling white water flowing out of the openings in the pyramid and surrounded by green water, instead of the black water everywhere else at that depth.

    * A sunken city about 400 miles off Portugal found by Soviet expeditions led by Boris Asturua, with buildings made of extremely strong concrete and plastics. He said "the remains of streets suggests the use of monorails for transportation". He also brought up a statue.

    * A marble acropolis underwater across five acres of fluted columns raised on pillars.

    * Heinrich Schilemann, the man who found and excavated the famous ruins of Troy (which historians thought was only a legend), reportedly left a written account of his discovery of a bronze vase with a metal unknown to scientists who examined it, in the famous Priam Treasure. Inside it are glyphs in Phoenician stating that it was from King Chronos of Atlantis. Identical pottery was found in Tiajuanaco, Bolivia.

    Many other examples of roads, buildings and columns are available, many of them made with materials not available in their areas.

    Many ancient maps are also known to have Atlantis on them, including the ancient Greek ones studied by Christopher Columbus before he set sail for America.

    Ancient writings from the Aztecs, Myans, Greeks, Egyptians, Spain, India, Tibet, and islands in the Atlantic and Pacific oceans all speak of ancient sunken continents and their connection to them.

    Human footprints and shoe prints, a perfectly engineered cube, jewelry, a prehistoric animal with a hole in its skull that scientists admit only a bullet could make, a remnant of a screw, and other modern artifacts have been found in layered rock strata geologists admit formed on these objects MILLIONS of years ago. All of these discoveries were printed in public daily newspapers when they occurred, and left out of history books simply because historians could not explain them with THEIR theories.
    Well then, it has to be true that it is in the Arctic regions, as this shows no case for Atlantis being actually in the Atlantic Ocean area, lol.
    Shadow Walker
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      Re: Atlantis

      Mon, July 25, 2005 - 3:20 PM
      Can you please give us the source link this came from?
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      Mon, August 15, 2005 - 5:49 PM
      I think I read that in the Weekly World News....
      • Re: Atlantis

        Thu, February 9, 2006 - 10:49 PM
        I think it more likely that Minoan Civilization was the inspiration for Atlantis, and that the eruption on Thera was the first blow that led to the demise of its maritime empire or monopoly. That Mycenaens invaded the stricken lands also fits well with Plato's description of the Wars of the Greeks directed against Atlantis. c.1500 BC

        The World-wide evidence of a catastrophe coupled with the Great Flood legends worldwide could point to a cataclysm of much older date, and that this flood was caused by the melting of the last vestiges of the Glacial Age c. 6000-5000 BC is a theory seriously considered by scholars.

        I might be wrong about Crete of course, and I recall seeing a television documentary back in the 1980's which claimed to have found Atlantean ruins in the Atlantic - they did show what seemed to be massive pillars, but I cannot vouch for it's authenticity.

        And what of the legend of Atlanta? Could the race have been an imperial arms race between Mycenaen (Heroic) Greece and Atlantis? Could the golden apples be symbols of the cunning employed by states less powerful than Poseidon's Seat, cunning calculated to entice the greed of an expanding titan?

        Maybe someone can review the Atlanta myth, see if, and what fits...

        • Re: Atlantis

          Thu, February 9, 2006 - 11:01 PM
          A more recent documentary should still have cites another possible, and interesting locality as the site of the biblical flood - the Black Sea. If any one is interested, shout and I'll post the details should the tape still be around.
          Sounds like an unlikely locality, perhaps, but there's some reason to believe they might just be on to something...
  • Re: Atlantis

    Fri, February 10, 2006 - 6:07 PM
    Currently there are at least three candidates that I know of for atlantis,
    Spain, Cyprus, Cuba. I personally favor Cuba.
    A Canadisn firm has found what could be a city off the coast of Cuba. This company is contract by Cuba to do sonic deep water sounding to find sunken ships with hopefully lost Aztec gold. I've included a few links.

    Also not far away there is the Bimini Road off the Bahamas. A new survey was done in May of 2005 by a french team (I believe it was a french team). Very well documented. What was a road to nowhere which was linked in popular imagings to Atlantis turns out to be a wave breaker for an ancient harbor.

    However the fact is nothing shy of a sign the says "Welcome to Atlantis" will end the speculation. However I like to add that the Mexica people upon becoming an empirical power in pre-columbian mexico took the name of a people from the legendary land of Aztlan, calling themselves the Aztec.

    A reposting of a Washington Post Article;
    andrewcollins.com/page/arti...onPost.htm

    Another online on the find off of cuba with photos;
    www.altarcheologie.nl/index1.html

    As supporting evidence there is some new information on the Bimini Road, it's not a road it's a harbor;
    i-newswire.com/pr49748.html

    also on the Bimini Road with link to a 32 page report with lots of incredible photos;
    www.mysterious-america.net/bimi....html
  • Re: Atlantis

    Thu, May 18, 2006 - 9:23 AM
    I read these two articles, and they gave me some clarity about the topic. They're quite long, but are food for thought. One of them links that great flood with a first ancient civilization. Both very good indeed.

    www.hatrack.com/osc/storie...antis.shtml
    -this one links it to the flood

    www.lost-civilizations.net/hors....html
    -this one places atlantis on the indies
    • Re: Atlantis

      Thu, June 15, 2006 - 10:14 PM
      J. M. Allen

      Atlantis The Andes Solution

      he believes atlantis is in the andes mountains once occupied by the Inca.....

      i think theres a website i dont remember what it was...
      • Re: Atlantis

        Fri, June 16, 2006 - 2:06 AM
        Atlantis is sleeping under the ocean somewhere outside the Pillars of Heracles.

        "Concerning the country the Egyptian priests said what is not only probable but manifestly true, that the boundaries were in those days fixed by the Isthmus, and that in the direction of the continent they extended as far as the heights of Cithaeron and Parnes; the boundary line came down in the direction of the sea, having the district of Oropus on the right, and with the river Asopus as the limit on the left. "

        Timaeus and Critias, Plato 360 BC
        The story is about the conflict between the ancient Athenians and the Atlantians 9000 years before Plato's time. Atlantis was conveyed to Solon by Egyptian priests. Solon passed the tale to Dropides, the great-grandfather of Critias. Critias learned of it from his grandfather also named Critias, son of Dropides.


  • Re: Atlantis

    Fri, June 16, 2006 - 10:28 PM
    I've had a fascination with Atlantis for a long time....

    Different theories include the sunken island near the straight of Gibralter, The Island of Thera with its Volcanic explosion, The island of Crete and the "Minoans" as they were titled by later archeologists, to the shore off Cuba, Spain now, the Incas, and an Island that's land bound in South America.

    Personally, I find the evidence and mentions of Atlantis we have too uncertain, vague especially in translation to ever give us a clear "definition" of what was Atlantis.

    For a long time people thought our heritage was that of civilizations who were barbaric... and since they we've continued to find evidence that says they had 2 story buildings, used tools , created monuments we can't figure out how they created and much much more.

    Very simply - we underestimate the ability of those previous. So looking for this culture of " concentric rings" and "advanced technology" could lead to many things.

    I doubt we'll ever know.

    Its great inspiration though to continue taking a good and serious look at all those things that still aly hidden. Personally - that discovery is what's best.
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    Re: Atlantis

    Fri, July 7, 2006 - 7:31 AM
    Yes, a very close friend of ours is a financial backer. They have multibeam bathymetry of the area which shows what appears to be a wall. It may or may not be, but it's very likely, as I believe the majority of undiscovered ancient sites are currently under water. If you ask my personal opinion, (though obviously you didn't,) it is the wrong location for the Atlantean culture in ancient times that Plato refers to. I would look at the Eratosthenes Seamount before anywhere else. This location has significantly more exceptional seismic, magnetic and aquatic features ( and therefore it's likely to also have significant geodic features as well,) plus it still fits Platos description to a large degree. It would be a better match for the potent Energy/Light work the Atlanteans were doing in relationship to deep-earth aquifers and "blind springs."

    Regardless, it should be interesting to see what surfaces (pun intended.)
  • Re: Atlantis

    Sat, December 30, 2006 - 8:06 PM
    New guy here.
    I thought I came up with this one up on my own, I mean the point of view that many Atlantis-like sites exist in a bunch of places offshore. I believe as we learn to go explore more efficiently off on the continental shelves and all kinds of new submerged places we might turn up a great deal of really interesting stuff. Missing links, intermediate species bones...on and on. The facts are not in contention that the coastlines migrate dramatically with the ice age cycles and in continental drift. So since people and their cultures would have thrived on the unfixed coasts, they were likely submerged in a cyclical fashion. More than once.
    There has been so much heaving of the (dry) earth surface - if you think in millions of years - you can't make a case that an Atlantian submersion event did NOT take place, multiple times, mutiple places. Is this point of view interesting here or are the majority here most interested in the Minoan type Atlantian theory we all heard as kids. (I am sure it's out there too and I respect its probable validity) Z